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But with The Dark Crystal, instead of puppetry we're trying to go toward a sense...

But with The Dark Crystal, instead of puppetry we're trying to go toward a sense...

I decided that what I really wanted to do was go off and paint.

I decided that what I really wanted to do was go off and paint.

Life's like a movie, write your own ending. Keep believing, keep pretending.

Life's like a movie, write your own ending. Keep believing, keep pretending.

Yeah, I think we did the term Muppets before we got the show Sam and...

Yeah, I think we did the term Muppets before we got the show Sam and...

Yeah, we pretty much had a form and a shape by that time - a...

Yeah, we pretty much had a form and a shape by that time - a...

Yeah, well when I first started working, it was $5 a show; it was probably...

Yeah, well when I first started working, it was $5 a show; it was probably...

You're assisting the audience to understand; you're giving them a bridge or an access. And...

You're assisting the audience to understand; you're giving them a bridge or an access. And...

Actually the copies of characters is something I don't particularly like to talk about in...

Actually the copies of characters is something I don't particularly like to talk about in...

And also there wasn't much money in television in those days anyhow.

And also there wasn't much money in television in those days anyhow.

At the time of Polaroid - and I did a couple of other commercials just...

At the time of Polaroid - and I did a couple of other commercials just...

At the University of Maryland, my first year I started off planning to major in...

At the University of Maryland, my first year I started off planning to major in...

When The Muppet Show ended, we all sat around and said, what kind of television...

When The Muppet Show ended, we all sat around and said, what kind of television...

Yeah, I did some small parts in high school and the first year of college...

Yeah, I did some small parts in high school and the first year of college...

My hope still is to leave the world a bit better than when I got...

My hope still is to leave the world a bit better than when I got...

NBC was trying to convert all of their local programming to color right away to...

NBC was trying to convert all of their local programming to color right away to...

No, there's not much competition between puppeteers in general because everybody's working their own style.

No, there's not much competition between puppeteers in general because everybody's working their own style.

Somebody like a Piggy or a Kermit, there needs to be several versions and so...

Somebody like a Piggy or a Kermit, there needs to be several versions and so...

The most sophisticated people I know - inside they are all children.

The most sophisticated people I know - inside they are all children.